I'm trying to get detailed data on languages spoken at home to do an LEP study. I'm able to get the data by PUMA; however, my city is lumped in with two other cities, with no way to segregate them.
Is there some other way to do this? We're on the hook for non-English language support but can't get granular-enough data to figure out which languages we have to service. Thanks in advance.
For city (sumlevel 160) and tracts (sum level 140), have you looked at table C16001 ? There're nine non-English languages listed
Grid View: Table C16001 - Census ReporterWhy just nine languages?
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Hi,
ACS Table B16002 provides detailed language data at the household level.
Data is available for municipalities and Census Tracts. You may need to isolate the tracts in your city and then aggregate them…
Perhaps whoever wrote the law should have checked what's actually available in the ACS before the law was passed.
I get difficult-to-answer questions like this a lot.
Yeah, losing Table B16001 at the tract level as others have referenced has really hurt my department's ability to address our LEP obligations. The release of B16002 at the tract level with the last ACS did add back a little detail so that was a very slight glimmer of hope.
Recently, I came across Table B05006 (Place of Birth for the Foreign-Born Population in the United States) and I've wondered about using this table's information in concert with B16002 to "reverse engineer" what languages we might want to focus on when all we have to go on is a generic geographic description (Indo-European, etc). Since they're all based on samples of a 5-year timeframe, it's fraught with issues of comparison but when you're stuck between a rock & a hard place with no alternatives, why not?...
Steve
I'd be careful about making assumptions based on place of birth. A person born in India has at least 160 languages to choose from; someone from Bosnia could speak any one of seventeen languages, including German and Italian. Even someone born in Canada could be Francophone and low-English proficient.
Hey, I freely admit that this is a flawed approach but, when you have identified a LEP population that speaks an "Indo-European Language", how can you realistically respond as required by law? There's no translation available for "Indo-European" so what do you do, because you have to do *something*.
The examples you cite are all valid but it seems to me that, in my Indo-European example, examining which Indo-European origin populations are represented in the area of interest, and then identifying which majority language they speak is a good faith attempt at satisfying the requirements of LEP under Title VI.
This is why I found and joined this site was to see how others are actually addressing this. When you're at the end of the line, we get a lot of Moses coming down the mountain with 10 Commandments telling us that we should do X & Y but it's devoid of additional guidance of "ok, you must do X & Y and here's how you accomplish it given the lack of specific information.."
Anyways, that's for voicing those concerns. I did not express it directly in my post but I have thought about that as a definite con with my idea.
Dear Steve
I'm working on an R function that creates an LEP table for a Place or CSD. The table contains all the languages for the PUMS LANP variable that occur in the PUMA. 180+ potential languages;
What is the city/town (CSD or Place) I have that you state fips is 53, It sounds like you need a county. Can you send the FIPS code. For a city/town I need the Place FIPS
or the county & CSD fips codes. If you want me to run the entire state contact me at
info@dorerfoundation.org
If you want the whole state we will need to execute a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) laying out the ground rules. There is no charge.
The program seems to run. I'll include the function in the next release of the "PAT" package. I'm testing the function/program right now. I need to test it on a county with multiple PUMAs.
dorerfoundation.org/software.
Since you are a government you can use the program (free to government agencies and 501(c)(3) organizations)
You can us the program but be aware:
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Dave
Dear Steve,
I have the necessary FIPS codes: State 53 county 061. There are 1771 census tracts. This will take about 2.5 days using my desktop machine.
Please email to discuss -- we can zoom if needed. I have an account.